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  Urban Myth?!

  by Tesha in

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  howdee all!.

  i have only recently been df'd, so i struggle with what i believe regarding god and the bible.

  as you all would know, its a long process reprogramming our minds from all the lies and shit we were taught by the organisation.

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  Mommie Dark

  Revelation was a DREAM that John had. Probably he was under the influence of a hallucinogen when he had that dream. The whole book of Revelation is a fevered fantasy. And remember that some scholars don't even believe Revelation should have made the final canonical cut to be included in the Bible!

  Armageddon is a spiritual event, not an actual place of war. Try reading the book as if it were allegorical, without any prophetic mumbo-jumbo. It makes a lot more 'sense' when viewed that way. It is a lot less scary when you keep it in its context.

  That fear is the biggest meanest chain the Society uses to shackle the hearts and minds of its slaves. As you keep studying and learning, the fear will probably be replaced with righteous anger that you were held in those shackles unnecessarily just so you could help make money for a publishing house.

  Don't worry, though, there is lots of help to recover, both from the fear, and from the rage that may replace it.

  The best thing you can do for yourself is to read every commentary and discussion you can find about the Bible in general and Revelation in particular.
  Remember that JWs DON'T teach the Bible, they teach the Society's interpretation of the Bible. Do yourself the courtesy of finding out what many other sources have to say about it. How do you know what to believe if you don't genuinely check out all available information?

  Welcome out of the Dark Tower's shadow and into the light of personal responsibility. It can be scary but OOOH! It's exhilarating to find out you can indeed think clearly and make choices NOT based on fear or guilt!
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  POLL - Elders vs Molesters

  by Amazing in

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  i wish to conduct a legitimate poll, or at least as legitimate as it can get on this forum.

  unless you are or were a jw, please do not respond or make comments.

  please simply give an answer, without extended comments.

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  Mommie Dark

  I've known two JW molesters. One claimed to be anointed.
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  Were You Really HAPPY in the borg.???

  by Latte in

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  when you were in the borg.

  in all honesty, could you say that you were h.a.p.p.y?

  i mean really happy.

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  Mommie Dark

  HATED every second of it. I hated being scared to pieces by the Paradise book and hated every boring minute of the 'family' study in the Let God Be True book. Hated the hypocritical tightassed weirdos presiding over the cong. Hated field service, thought it was a really rude thing to bang on doors telling people they needed to buy these crappy books to keep God from killing them.

  I hated being the freak at school, sitting in the hallway during holiday prep and sitting in the office studying while the other kids had their holiday party or pep rally. Hated missing the field trip to a cathedral to hear a real classical orchestra, hated not being allowed to join the choir or sing a solo in the intramural competition, or play drums in the band. I hated getting sneered at by Jdubs for winning the district spelling bee and going to the regional competition; hated being humiliated by an elder's daughter who made it sound like I had done something unsavory and shameful by competing and (gasp!) winning!

  The guilt and fear would overshadow the resentment, and then I would hate myself for being 'ungrateful for Jehovah's fine loving provision.' Then I would try again, even harder, to immerse myself in the bullshit and pretend it was 'happifying.' The fear and guilt convinced me I couldn't love or serve God anyplace but inside the cult, so no matter how bad and incomplete I felt, I kept going back.

  I really hated raising my babies in that alleged 'loving provision' by those shitty horrible rules, and my last few years inside the cult were a churned-up mess of cognitive dissonance, trying to be grateful for what was killing my heart and my babies' joy in living.

  For all the problems and challenges life has thrown at me since then, I'm still infinitely happier than I ever was inside the cult. I have a great marriage and a good honest relationship with my kids. We aren't perfect and we never ever claim to have The Answers. And we don't need, want, or search for a salvation package. There's nothign to need saved FROM. This life is all we have, and we do what we can with what we have. It's simple but not easy. And it's a million times better than being a walking advert for one of America's wackiest millenarian cults.
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  Pedophile JC Analysis

  by Amazing in

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  the title to this post sounds impressive, but i am not going to do to much here that is too technical, except to draw attention to the general scope of jw justice, and the shear battlefield of religious victims.

  i will evaluate just the usa statistics.

  many of my numbers are estimates, but i have reason to believe that they are generally representative of reality.. there are about 1,000,000 jws in the usa, in about 7,000 congregations.

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  Mommie Dark

  "MommieDark: You are accusing all Witnesses of being perverts. That is just silly and in the Bible it's called slander. I only stated the facts about the congregations that I served in."

  LIAR!!!

  If your level of reading comprehension is that bad, perhaps you should try some remedial reading courses before you attempt to school anyone.

  Now go back and read what I said. I said filth and perversion exist among JW congs. In every state I've lived. I never said ALL JWs were pervs.

  Is this how you defend your cult? With lies?

  Now one more thing: why are you here in direct violation of your Crooklyn slavemasters' edict?
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  Pedophile JC Analysis

  by Amazing in

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  the title to this post sounds impressive, but i am not going to do to much here that is too technical, except to draw attention to the general scope of jw justice, and the shear battlefield of religious victims.

  i will evaluate just the usa statistics.

  many of my numbers are estimates, but i have reason to believe that they are generally representative of reality.. there are about 1,000,000 jws in the usa, in about 7,000 congregations.

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  Mommie Dark

  "The injustices that you describe all happened around you, so you might be the problem. They don't happen in all congregations."

  The arrogance of the JW apologist! 'It's YOUR fault, We are not the problem, Jehovah was testing you and you failed.'

  Your attitude is repulsive!

  I was a Jaydub in good standing in three states and a believing walkaway in four more. I've seen unbelievable filth and perversion among JWs and always, always, arrogant prigs like you blame the victim, blame the whistle-blower, and then as a last resort, shrug the evil off as a 'test' by your horrible Skydaddy!

  How do you sleep at night?

  The fact that 'this doesn't happen in all congregations' is surely no excuse for insinuating that when it does happen it's the fault of the observers!

  Nobody is accusing you of serving your god less than wholeheartedly; I notice you don't bother to extend the same courtesy to others. Your insinuations are truly tasteless and show the trashy down-and-dirty 'blame the victim' mentality JWdom has become justly famous for!
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  JUSTICE #15 - Parking Lot DFing

  by Amazing in

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  parking lot disfellowshipping .

  [i have changed the sequence of the justice series.

  i will post the other titles later.].

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  Mommie Dark

  I've followed this series with interest. This time, though, it seems to me that the whole thing could have been avoided if you and your elder cronies had just acceded to the girl's expressed wishes and left her the hell alone!

  Among all the many words posted, folks praising you seem to ignore this bit:

  " I get a certified letter at my home on a Saturday. This time, the letter is typed, and while it was signed by Sister S, it was clearly not her writing style and was written in very threatening language. It basically demanded that we stop harassing her, otherwise she will take legal action against us and the congregation and possibly the Watch Tower Society.

  We in no way were harassing her."

  YES YOU WERE! She had written you with her decision, why did you hassle her again after receiving this official warning?

  "One attempt to talk to her is not an act of harassment."

  YES IT IS! Your rationalizations after the fact are pretty meaningless. She told you to leave her alone; you in your elder arrogance decided her wishes meant nothing.

  "The letter bore all the marks that it was written for her, and she merely signed it. If she wrote it, she must have been coached."

  Irrelevant speculation! Many JWs have asked someone else to help them write letters in their dealings with the Society. That's no excuse to dog the child further!

  "I did not mind that she wanted to take a strong stand, but I felt very bad that she would accuse us of harassment and make such strong threats, and allow herself to be so coached by people who did not understand or care about our good motives."

  Too bad for your feelings! You were WRONG and no amount of justification will make it right. Your 'good' motives? Your ARROGANT PATERNALISTIC HIERARCHICAL motives! She felt harrassed. WHy are your feelings of more value than hers?

  "One more try again: Yes, I was angry at what was going down."

  BINGO! You were angry, you sought revenge.

  "I was more angry that Sister S was being coached and within the protection of this mean ‘worldly’ family. I was pissed that she took off and did not at least allow us some additional discussion. I was also hurt at her allegations of harassment, and could not understand this accusation. So, I get together with the other Elder and we decide to write a letter warning Sister S that she has been accused of stealing and lying, and that if she fails to respond we will have to take DFing action."

  So, you sought to exercise some further definitive control over the girl, show her who's boss, threaten her until she coughs up some respect for you. And to slap at that awful worldly woman, how dare she try to help the kid protect herself from elders like you!

  PHOOEY!!!!

  This one IMO seriously dents your credibility. You took action based on anger and hurt feelings, and totally discounted the person in favor of swift revenge.

  No means NO in any language. You should be ashamed to talk about 'justice' in this incident. YOu were a genuine Society boy through and through in this one.

  I'll be viewing further 'justice' posts from you with a whole shaker of salt.
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  We have named them!

  by LDH in

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  eden got two kittens over the weekend.. it took about 36 hours but we have decided on names.. the boy is george and the girl is weezy.. a prize to whoever guesses correctly first.

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  Mommie Dark

  Lindy! Undertones? Moi?

  But I'm so simple, so transparent, where would I KEEP those undertones? :D
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  We have named them!

  by LDH in

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  eden got two kittens over the weekend.. it took about 36 hours but we have decided on names.. the boy is george and the girl is weezy.. a prize to whoever guesses correctly first.

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  Mommie Dark

  My cat had 3 kittens. I named them Octo, Sour, and Glamour.

  You know why?
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  Why many do not hear the holy spirit...

  by kes152 in

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  "a man had two sons.. he went up to the first son and asked him, "son, go please and bring in my sheep from the pasture.

  for it is getting dark and it would be dangerous to leave them out at night.".

  so the son goes out and brings in the flock, because his heart was on obeying his father and he wanted to care about the same things his father cared about.

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  Mommie Dark

  "- I really do think you are taking Aaron's message way too seriously. He always speaks with dignity and respect - I am yet to see him call anyone "braindead" or to infer others are insane!"

  I think you're wrong, Prisca. This guy goes around saying there is something wrong with out hearts, he judges us as filthy, deceitful, etc. Why? Because he thinks we are not hearing the same voices as he!

  If that's dignity and respect, I'm a beauty queen!

  That inherent judgmental arrogance is hatefilled. Just because he isn't ranting and railing doesn't mean he's not operating out of blind and stupid prejudice.

  His 'message' is braindead. If he wants to be viewed as rational, he should try keeping his religion in his pants and stop spraying everyone with its byproduct.
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  Why many do not hear the holy spirit...

  by kes152 in

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  "a man had two sons.. he went up to the first son and asked him, "son, go please and bring in my sheep from the pasture.

  for it is getting dark and it would be dangerous to leave them out at night.".

  so the son goes out and brings in the flock, because his heart was on obeying his father and he wanted to care about the same things his father cared about.

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  Mommie Dark

  I consider posts like Aaron's to be direct insults. He says I am a dirty sinner and in need of the same emotional crutch as he uses. He urges me to mumble out loud to the same imaginary friend he relies upon. I find that insulting. I find it insane.

  This is not ad hominem. If the man does not want to be chuffed off, he needs to stop telling me I am dirty and in need of a ritual cleansing via his approved delusional method.

  I don't give a rat's ass about 'appearing intelligent'. Appearances can be deceptive,as certain allegedly intelligent posters prove daily. If the man doesn't want to be discarded with his idiot message, he needs to change his approach and quit insulting anyone not buying his brand of cheese.